BrothersTripp asked:
Clip of the Shiba Inu from the 2007 Westminster Dog Show, on February 12, 2007.
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Tags: February 12, Shiba Inu, westminster dog show, Westminster Dog Show 2007
January 20th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
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and the collar bone is connected to the head bone,
January 21st, 2009 at 9:46 pm
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i like sibainu !!!
January 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 am
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I understand the dynamics of recombination but I was speaking of selective breading. Yes there are some dog breeders who try there best, but in the real world profit is the name of the game. My point was that mutts have more genetic diversity and are usually hardier overall. There is a place for competent breeders, but many people go over board and breed dogs that can barely walk because of short legs and so forth. I consider them mutant degenerates and I’m just talking about the breeders!
January 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 am
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Inbreeding increases the chance of an animal receiving two copies of the mutant allele. This is when the mutant becomes expressed. An inbred mutt has the same (if not greater) chance of receiving multiple copies of recessive mutations. So, like janaoo4 said, proper breeding knowledgable breeding greatly reduces (to the same degree as natural random breeding) the genetic defects that these dogs are associated with. On the other hand, it also makes it harder to keep certain specific traits:)
January 26th, 2009 at 12:08 am
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Had to chyme in on this argument. What you guys want to say is that both a pure bred and a mut both have the same amount of genetic information. That makes them dogs. The problem occurs when excessive inbreeding occurs (this is with mutt’s or purebreds). All dogs receive two copies of each allele, and many of those alleles may be of mutant form. The mutant allele is usually not expressed because it is usually saved by the normal form (recessive/dominant mutations).
January 26th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
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Therefor using work from Cornell and outdated work from Mendel is flawed. While your reasoning is understandable the dogs that we are talking about have multiple variations of these alleles which are accepted standards. Responsible breeders will take advantage of this fact to insure genetic diversity in the population. What you are implicating in your argument is that the dogs have been subjugated to as few as 2-3 alleles variations which is inaccurate.
January 26th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
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If I must explain my argument simply so that you can understand I will continue this due to your sheer tenacity. What I’m defending is that there where limited expressible alleles in the peas Mendel worked with, similarly many of the plants which are studied in horticulture today do not either. It is not that plants do not have multiple variations it is simply that most produce studied by horticulturists do not have multiple allele variations for the sake of simplicity.
January 27th, 2009 at 8:54 am
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Yet again I contradict you because you are incorrect. I out number you 2:1 unfortunately as I am forced to correct you so frequently. Also thank you for the first year biology notes, again. Yes Mendel is the father of synthesis, but his techniques and theories where and are not perfect. THAT is what I’m trying to get across to you. It is comparing the wheel to the modern wheel. Also thank you for picking apart my grammar instead of defending your argument.
January 30th, 2009 at 8:37 am
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As far as spam, you out number me 2-1. If you want to end debate, quit contacting me.
January 31st, 2009 at 9:02 pm
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We can halt the debate but I’m compelled to explain that Gregory Mendel is considered to be the father of the modern synthesis. To say he only scratched the surface and refer to him in the present tense by stating he is no means an expert. Well this just leaves me scratching my head. I believe in free speech. This is a public forum, until I am censored by poster. The bases are CGAT in DNA and U in RNA. Their called nucleotides & are combined in different sequences. All living things have them.
February 4th, 2009 at 6:39 am
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Now I suggest we halt this debate, and any problems other wise we will simply have to agree to disagree. I don’t think that the poster of this video would appreciate receiving all of these posts sent to their email and spamming their page.
February 6th, 2009 at 4:43 am
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At least then if you read that you’ll at least get your basics straightened out. Finally you are right that purebreds are prone to specific ailments but you make it seem like mutts aren’t. The unfortunate reality is that some breeders solely used interbreeding for years. This affected the populations of these animals. It is the duty of a responsible breeder to insure that their litters are as healthy as possible; by looking for other respectable breeders as to cross their stock with.
February 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
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Secondly you are right about there being no major differences in how DNA works between plants and animals but the fact is I never said that there was. I was saying that the DNA of plants and animals are different. Which they are, and I’m not getting into that, you want to know what the differences are you can pick up a text book. Preferably one from Robert J. Brooker because the man actually knows what he’s talking about.
February 8th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
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Oh I’m sorry you failed to understand what I said. I do know the differences my dear. You see you would if you ever took any classes on genealogy. Where as one would study how traits and genes are passed on through out family lines. Where mutations and genetics make up it’s core. I am saying that if you wish to make an argument do not simply use the most basic examples. Mendel simply scratched the surface of inheritance, and is by no means an expert.
February 10th, 2009 at 7:22 am
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If you believe that Gregory Mendel the father of the modern synthesis can some how be marginalized because he worked on peas or that there is a fundamental difference between plant DNA and human or animal DNA, along with the fact that you didn’t know the difference between genealogy and genetics, leads me to believe maybe you’re in the wrong business. Personnel I think every breeder should be required to learn the basic science behind this. I think you have demonstrated my point for me.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:42 am
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There are dark areas in every area, yet I don’t see you lashing out against the farming industry for modify chickens to the point that they are so laden with meat they can’t walk. How convenient for you. Most working dogs are bred so that they can do their jobs without hurting themselves. In huskies and malemutes there is a gene that causes thin skin on the paws. In the winter those dogs get frost bite and can suffer extreme injury. A breeder eliminates this gene from their breeding stock.
February 13th, 2009 at 7:49 am
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Though I do appreciate you bringing your first year biology notes to the table on this one it seems that you still don’t really understand how things work in the long run. Maybe it’s cause your too busy still looking at peas. Also noting any work done by Cornell is almost laughable if you’ve had to look at any of his notes. He specializes in plants first of all, and though he has a few good ideas the man argues against evolution in favor of intelligent design need I say any more?
February 15th, 2009 at 8:24 am
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I was speaking of Mendelian genetics & the principles of genetic entropy as recently put forth by John C. Sanford of Cornell. Selective breeding and even natural speciation always come with a price. The reason why mutts are lower maintenance and usually have a longer life expectancy is because they have a greater amount of genetic information, while so called purebreds have had their genomic information truncated through selective breeding.This is why many purebreds suffer from health problems
February 16th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
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When you speak of best traits being passed on. You mean best traits for the human, not necessarily the animal.I don’t doubt the sincerity of some. Its the many that is the problem, and the business of selective breeding has a lot of dark areas that no one wants to come to terms with.Pure bred horses are being bred with ankles so thin that breaking them during races is now common. Dogs sometimes also have to suffer for the aesthetic subjectivity of their owners and the love of 1st place trophies.
February 19th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
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Also please insure that you look up what mutant means as you are not using it properly at all. If you took any form of genealogy classes you would know that. Next time you wish to attack an industry and life style please be sure to know your facts. Real dog lovers know their breeds through and through and the purpose of those breeds. Thank you very much, please think before you comment so idiotically.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
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Oh really you don’t seem to know what your talking about. Yes there is selective breeding, and yes some of that results in illness. What you fail to include is that it is because of irresponsible breeders who allow for interbreeding. That is the reason for these illnesses of which you speak, my family has bread sled dogs for years. Selective breeding insures the best traits are carried on, and that undesirable one’s are not.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
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I wish some day these dog shows could be outlawed. Most people don’t even realize how over selective breeding has caused many of these animals to suffer painful debilitating diseases. These animals are actually degenerate mutants. Real dog lovers would never want there animals to suffer the kind of illnesses were seeing now in dogs and race horses resulting from cruel or ignorant people who want a unique show dog that satisfies their ego, or to make a profit.
February 21st, 2009 at 2:49 am
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my schiba inu is better than all
February 24th, 2009 at 4:40 am
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amazing. It’s a beautiful shiba inu. I also own one. like the announcer said, they are very cat like; very clean and watchful.
Other then looking off to the crowd a few times and the head shake, it was wonderfully trained and looks very healthy.
February 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
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So cute X3