Sassysaz asked:
My sister wants to breed her pedigree poodle with another poodle, then give the pups to kids with asthma, as poodles are allergy-free.
Does anyone know where she can find a male dog for her female one, whose owner wouldn’t charge too much, as the pups would be going to needy homes?
My sister wants to breed her pedigree poodle with another poodle, then give the pups to kids with asthma, as poodles are allergy-free.
Does anyone know where she can find a male dog for her female one, whose owner wouldn’t charge too much, as the pups would be going to needy homes?
To all you self-righteous anti-breeding people out there – GROW UP!!!
I had terrible asthma as a kid and was desperate for a dog. Eventually my mum found out about poodles and I had one for 17 years. It brought a great quality to my life and that is why my sister is inspired to do this.
All this stuff you lot spout about there being too many dogs out there may be true, but there are NOT ENOUGH dogs for asthmatics – especially ones given out free from the goodness of someone’s hearts.
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March 10th, 2006 at 6:15 pm
You have to buy the dog a drink first.
March 14th, 2006 at 2:07 am
If a family needs a free dog because of money issues, then they can’t afford a dog in the first place. Animals need vet care and that is not free. That being said, no family NEEDS a dog. Having a dog is a luxury..not a birthright. I’ve known plenty of people with Asthma…none of them suffered because they did not have a dog. Here is one of MANY links for adoptable poodles. If these families qualify, then they should have no problem.
March 15th, 2006 at 6:05 am
if a person cant afford a dog, they cant afford the vet bills. is that how you want your pups treated?
March 18th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
I think it is a wonderful idea you have to help these children. If I knew where one was I would tell you but don’t give up your dream. Keep at it. Perhaps save up some money and buy a male poodle. This is a good thing. But make sure they can keep the dogs healthy. They have to have two requirements love and ability to pay vet bills.
March 19th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
i’ll bet there’s a poodle rescue league that would argue with you.
the poodles they rescue didn’t fall from the sky. they come from careless breeders. although i applaud your sisters willingness (there’s not many that are that giving anymore), she should consider costs all around. even if she could find a breeder that would donate their stud service (not likely because a breeder gets their price partly based on the success of the pups in the show ring. anything else decreases the value of the studs service), your sister would still be financially responsible for 1st shots, worming, and general health check ups. then the prospective new owners would be responsible for the costs (vet, food, emergencies etc) for the rest of the dogs life. if a parent is already paying through the nose for their kids medical care, what makes you think they’d want to support a dog? a better idea would be for your sister to contact rescue leagues and see if they would be willing to place the dogs in such homes. they’d already be fixed and have most of their shots. perhaps for only a minimal fee if anything. alot of people don’t even know there are rescue leagues for almost any breed. just getting the word out could be helpful for everyone, including the dogs that need forever homes.
March 20th, 2006 at 5:36 am
I do agree with the answers that have already been said, but I do hear your plight. I had a dog as a child & she was my best friend. An unconditional one! So I got a dog for my daughter when she was 5, although I did have a few dogs already. But this dog was to be hers not mine. That dog taught my daugher to be loving & kind. She never left her side. My daughter is now an excellent dog trainer & understands dogs enough to be able to train them to do anything. I believe that dogs can be good for kids as long as they are treated with respect & cared for to the highest standard. If that is the case for the puppies that you intend to breed & you have excellent homes waiting, then prove it. Put your story in your local paper & see if anyone comes forward to help. Vets bills & feeding will be the question on everyones lips, so make sure that the families you have lined up can cover those costs without any problems.
March 20th, 2006 at 1:28 pm
Its a nice idea in theory, but theres no such thing as an allergy free dog. Theres no guarantee that the asthmatics won’t also develop an allergy to the shed skin of the dog. Its not just the fur that triggers the allergy. Also, they can develop an allergy over time by being exposed to the dog.
All your sister needs to do is advertise in the right place, where stud dogs are advertised and see if any owners agree. This site isn’t the right place to do it.
And your sister would need to charge something to cover all the expenses such as worming, vaccinations, extra feed and so on.
March 23rd, 2006 at 6:17 am
Dogs are not allegry free. To market a dog as a “hypoallergenic” dog is irresponsible and a big lie. As many people have said, there are far too many dogs being killed in this world and as good as your intentions might be, they will STILL be dying. You want to breed, you’ll have to do it the right way and trust me, its going to be FAR from free. Health checks for hereditary diseases on both parents, breed standard (ALSO both parents), show quality, CLOSELY monitered vet care, money for an emergency, and making sure that the puppies are spayed and neutered when going to these new homes? Can you handle that? I highly doubt it if you are trying to find a dog to breed for free. You need to realize that ALL of these things are essential or all you will be is just another, unethical, back yard breeder.
You really want to help? There are PLENTY of unwanted poodles in this world, none are going to be a guarenteed match for a kid with asthma because again, no dog is hypoallergenic but look in the shelters. Find a breed rescue. You are saving a life and doing good that way. Just this past week, we had two poodles in the pound. Purebred poodles. And there are so many more out there waiting for a home.
March 25th, 2006 at 6:57 am
There is NO SHORTAGE of poodles, they are as common as dirt. In 2006 there were almost THIRTY THOUSAND new poodles registered in the US, and that doesn’t count the thousands and thousands that are NOT registered.
And free dogs usually end up at the pound or otherwise dead.
Tell your sister to grab a brain.
March 25th, 2006 at 4:18 pm
Okay, just because someone has asthma, does NOT make them NEEDY financially that YOU have to give them a DOG. Also, tho this breed may be less of an issue for some people, some, with VERY SEVERE ALLERGIES will NOT be able to be around ANY DOG.
You are making up an excuse to “justify” byb in your own mind because you KNOW IT’S WRONG!
March 25th, 2006 at 6:45 pm
If you can’t afford the Stud fee how are you going to be able to pay the vet bills if something terrible happens to the dam during whelp? for example how much does a cesarean cost at 3 in the morning?. What happens if a pup is stuck? what will you do if a pup is born with a cleft palate? Pups injections, they cost money!!
March 25th, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Where can you find a standard poodle owner kind enough to let it mate for free with your dog? You won’t, honestly.
There are two types of poodle owners. The first paid quite a bit of money for their purebred poodle and, if they breed it, they are primarily concerned with improving the breed. You are not interested in doing this, so you are unlikely to find one of these owners who would go along with this.
The second type has a poodle just as a pet. Either this pet is fixed, or the owner is probably already doing what you are trying to.
There most definately is NOT a shortage of poodles, or poodle mixes, that hundreds of people are breeding just because they think they’re hypo-allergenic. There ARE enough dogs for people who have asthma, and there ARE tons of poodle/poodle mixes who can’t find homes. Economically speaking, there is a larger supply of these dogs than there is a demand. Check petfinder for “poodle” if you don’t believe me.
March 27th, 2006 at 5:33 pm
If your wanting to to give away free pups, and get the stud fee free. Call around…. look in the paper and see if there is anybody wanting to breed there male. Call tthem up and tell them what your doing on giving them away for fee”from the goodness of someone’s heart” if they dont, they dont, its there problems. just keep checking if you really want to do it.
March 30th, 2006 at 1:18 pm
Ok I think your having abit of a hard time here! It is a lovelly idea and may very well work out!
I hope someone will stud their dog for free but honestly that is very unlikely.
The only thing I would say is that if the parents of these asthmatics wanted a dog in the house, surely they would have bought one anyway? If they havent bought one then perhaps they dont want one and may not appreciate your donation. If you have famillies keen and lined up who can provide a dog with a good home then go for it! But dont do it just because you think its a good idea!
April 2nd, 2006 at 12:17 pm
Being such a caring breeder, your sister will of course pay to have her b1tch hip-scored, eye tested & tested for sebaceous adenitis before breeding as the stud dog will also have been. Nothing worse than breaking a child’s heart by giving them a puppy which will suffer from an inherited disease.
April 3rd, 2006 at 3:38 am
Grow up?
No doubt you did have terrible asthma as a kid.
I’m genuinely pleased that having a dog brought great quality to your life.
That is not a reason to just give them away for free. Dog ownership is not for everyone. Would the dog’s food be free also? Vet bills, would they be free?
If these “needy homes” wanted a dog that much, they’d have one already.
NO dog can EVER be guaranteed 100% allergen-free. True, there are hypoallergenic breeds out there – but that just means LESS allergic.
Hopefully your sister knows that already.
Oh, and if there is such a shortage of poodles, then why do these organisations exist?
London and Home Counties Toy Poodle Club Rescue (and Miniature)
Mr N B Cook, Snodland, Kent. Tel: 01634241073
Mrs G M Holbourn, Brighton, East Sussex. Tel: 01273 887212
Miniature Poodle Rescue
Co-ordinator – Mrs. Beth Dowle, Northants. Tel: 01933 358959
South West Poodle Rescue (Miniature and Toy)
Miss A C Coppage, Taunton, Somerset. Tel: 01823 400481
Standard Poodle Rescue
Mrs Audrey Hazelwood – Bucks, Berks, Herts, Oxford, London, Surrey Tel/Fax: 0208 3680043
Mrs Melva Nathan – Derbys, Leics, Northants, Notts, Hereford, Glos, Shrops, Staffs, Warks, West Midlands, Worcs Tel: 01623 626858
Mrs Chris Uings – Channel Islands, Dorset, Hants, Kent, Sussex, Wilts Tel: 01622 685064
Mrs Avril Thorndyke – Avon, Devon, Glamorgan, Powys, Cornwall, Dyfed, Gwent, Somerset Tel: 01726 860950
Mrs Sandra Dennison – Cheshire, Manchester, Cumbria, Lancashire, North Wales & Isle of Man
Tel: 01706 220824
Mrs Eileen Geeson – Beds, Cambs, Essex, Lincs, Norfolk, Suffolk Tel/Fax: 01406 422392
Mrs Angela Luty – Cleveland, Durham, Humberside, Tyne & Wear, Northumbria, Yorkshire
Tel: 01132 509100
Mrs Barbara Turnbull – Scotland & Northern Ireland Tel/Fax: 01644 470311
All of them are breed specific rescues that would be (happily) out of business if there was not a surplus of poodles.
April 3rd, 2006 at 9:36 am
Hi there, what you’re suggesting does sound wonderful in principal but I would urge you to consider what a lot of the people answering your question have very politely said. Two in particular
… what will you do IF things go wrong with the pregnancy & will you have the money to pay any resulting vet fees?
In some cases, the reason why puppies cost so much is because their breeders are recouping the costs of when things have not gone so well … plus all the costs of vet checks, etc. etc. (Though of course, when a particular breed of dog is very popular some people do cash in on it & that makes the breed much too expensive for some)
…. why are there so many rescue organisations?
That was a good point .. could you not get involved with one of the rescue organisations & match up unwanted poodles with those needy homes? I’d imagine that there would be immense satisfaction in doing that.
However, I’m not out to preach to you – there’s a list of stud dogs on the Champdogs site. I don’t know if any of the stud dog owners would be willing to let you use their dog for a reduced fee or not … though, maybe if your sister’s girl is of exceptional quality, you might get offered ‘breeding terms’ – eg the use of the stud dog for the stud dog owner getting the pick of the litter in return.
Miniature Poodle:
Standard Poodle:
Toy Poodle:
You could also try the ePupz site which also lets you search on stud-dogs:+++
(Not sure if they also divide them up into Miniature, Toy & Standard – you may need to search specifically on the size)
Failing that – there are lots of sites where you can place free ads – so why not advertise for one?