Comments on: Where can I find a Standard Poodle owner kind enough to allow their dog to mate for free? http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free The #1 Dog Lovers Website! Tue, 02 Feb 2016 05:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Solow http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5787 Solow Mon, 03 Apr 2006 09:36:25 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5787 Hi there, what you're suggesting does sound wonderful in principal but I would urge you to consider what a lot of the people answering your question have very politely said. Two in particular ... what will you do IF things go wrong with the pregnancy & will you have the money to pay any resulting vet fees? In some cases, the reason why puppies cost so much is because their breeders are recouping the costs of when things have not gone so well ... plus all the costs of vet checks, etc. etc. (Though of course, when a particular breed of dog is very popular some people do cash in on it & that makes the breed much too expensive for some) .... why are there so many rescue organisations? That was a good point .. could you not get involved with one of the rescue organisations & match up unwanted poodles with those needy homes? I'd imagine that there would be immense satisfaction in doing that. However, I'm not out to preach to you - there's a list of stud dogs on the Champdogs site. I don't know if any of the stud dog owners would be willing to let you use their dog for a reduced fee or not ... though, maybe if your sister's girl is of exceptional quality, you might get offered 'breeding terms' - eg the use of the stud dog for the stud dog owner getting the pick of the litter in return. Miniature Poodle: Standard Poodle: Toy Poodle: You could also try the ePupz site which also lets you search on stud-dogs:+++ (Not sure if they also divide them up into Miniature, Toy & Standard - you may need to search specifically on the size) Failing that - there are lots of sites where you can place free ads - so why not advertise for one? Hi there, what you’re suggesting does sound wonderful in principal but I would urge you to consider what a lot of the people answering your question have very politely said. Two in particular

… what will you do IF things go wrong with the pregnancy & will you have the money to pay any resulting vet fees?

In some cases, the reason why puppies cost so much is because their breeders are recouping the costs of when things have not gone so well … plus all the costs of vet checks, etc. etc. (Though of course, when a particular breed of dog is very popular some people do cash in on it & that makes the breed much too expensive for some)

…. why are there so many rescue organisations?

That was a good point .. could you not get involved with one of the rescue organisations & match up unwanted poodles with those needy homes? I’d imagine that there would be immense satisfaction in doing that.

However, I’m not out to preach to you – there’s a list of stud dogs on the Champdogs site. I don’t know if any of the stud dog owners would be willing to let you use their dog for a reduced fee or not … though, maybe if your sister’s girl is of exceptional quality, you might get offered ‘breeding terms’ – eg the use of the stud dog for the stud dog owner getting the pick of the litter in return.

Miniature Poodle:
Standard Poodle:
Toy Poodle:

You could also try the ePupz site which also lets you search on stud-dogs:+++
(Not sure if they also divide them up into Miniature, Toy & Standard – you may need to search specifically on the size)

Failing that – there are lots of sites where you can place free ads – so why not advertise for one?

]]> By: Terrier http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5786 Terrier Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:38:46 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5786 Grow up? No doubt you did have terrible asthma as a kid. I'm genuinely pleased that having a dog brought great quality to your life. That is not a reason to just give them away for free. Dog ownership is not for everyone. Would the dog's food be free also? Vet bills, would they be free? If these "needy homes" wanted a dog that much, they'd have one already. NO dog can EVER be guaranteed 100% allergen-free. True, there are hypoallergenic breeds out there - but that just means LESS allergic. Hopefully your sister knows that already. Oh, and if there is such a shortage of poodles, then why do these organisations exist? London and Home Counties Toy Poodle Club Rescue (and Miniature) Mr N B Cook, Snodland, Kent. Tel: 01634241073 Mrs G M Holbourn, Brighton, East Sussex. Tel: 01273 887212 Miniature Poodle Rescue Co-ordinator - Mrs. Beth Dowle, Northants. Tel: 01933 358959 South West Poodle Rescue (Miniature and Toy) Miss A C Coppage, Taunton, Somerset. Tel: 01823 400481 Standard Poodle Rescue Mrs Audrey Hazelwood - Bucks, Berks, Herts, Oxford, London, Surrey Tel/Fax: 0208 3680043 Mrs Melva Nathan - Derbys, Leics, Northants, Notts, Hereford, Glos, Shrops, Staffs, Warks, West Midlands, Worcs Tel: 01623 626858 Mrs Chris Uings - Channel Islands, Dorset, Hants, Kent, Sussex, Wilts Tel: 01622 685064 Mrs Avril Thorndyke - Avon, Devon, Glamorgan, Powys, Cornwall, Dyfed, Gwent, Somerset Tel: 01726 860950 Mrs Sandra Dennison - Cheshire, Manchester, Cumbria, Lancashire, North Wales & Isle of Man Tel: 01706 220824 Mrs Eileen Geeson - Beds, Cambs, Essex, Lincs, Norfolk, Suffolk Tel/Fax: 01406 422392 Mrs Angela Luty - Cleveland, Durham, Humberside, Tyne & Wear, Northumbria, Yorkshire Tel: 01132 509100 Mrs Barbara Turnbull - Scotland & Northern Ireland Tel/Fax: 01644 470311 All of them are breed specific rescues that would be (happily) out of business if there was not a surplus of poodles. Grow up?

No doubt you did have terrible asthma as a kid.

I’m genuinely pleased that having a dog brought great quality to your life.

That is not a reason to just give them away for free. Dog ownership is not for everyone. Would the dog’s food be free also? Vet bills, would they be free?

If these “needy homes” wanted a dog that much, they’d have one already.

NO dog can EVER be guaranteed 100% allergen-free. True, there are hypoallergenic breeds out there – but that just means LESS allergic.

Hopefully your sister knows that already.

Oh, and if there is such a shortage of poodles, then why do these organisations exist?

London and Home Counties Toy Poodle Club Rescue (and Miniature)
Mr N B Cook, Snodland, Kent. Tel: 01634241073

Mrs G M Holbourn, Brighton, East Sussex. Tel: 01273 887212

Miniature Poodle Rescue
Co-ordinator – Mrs. Beth Dowle, Northants. Tel: 01933 358959

South West Poodle Rescue (Miniature and Toy)
Miss A C Coppage, Taunton, Somerset. Tel: 01823 400481

Standard Poodle Rescue
Mrs Audrey Hazelwood – Bucks, Berks, Herts, Oxford, London, Surrey Tel/Fax: 0208 3680043

Mrs Melva Nathan – Derbys, Leics, Northants, Notts, Hereford, Glos, Shrops, Staffs, Warks, West Midlands, Worcs Tel: 01623 626858

Mrs Chris Uings – Channel Islands, Dorset, Hants, Kent, Sussex, Wilts Tel: 01622 685064

Mrs Avril Thorndyke – Avon, Devon, Glamorgan, Powys, Cornwall, Dyfed, Gwent, Somerset Tel: 01726 860950

Mrs Sandra Dennison – Cheshire, Manchester, Cumbria, Lancashire, North Wales & Isle of Man
Tel: 01706 220824

Mrs Eileen Geeson – Beds, Cambs, Essex, Lincs, Norfolk, Suffolk Tel/Fax: 01406 422392

Mrs Angela Luty – Cleveland, Durham, Humberside, Tyne & Wear, Northumbria, Yorkshire
Tel: 01132 509100

Mrs Barbara Turnbull – Scotland & Northern Ireland Tel/Fax: 01644 470311

All of them are breed specific rescues that would be (happily) out of business if there was not a surplus of poodles.

]]> By: anwen55 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5785 anwen55 Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:17:47 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5785 Being such a caring breeder, your sister will of course pay to have her b1tch hip-scored, eye tested & tested for sebaceous adenitis before breeding as the stud dog will also have been. Nothing worse than breaking a child's heart by giving them a puppy which will suffer from an inherited disease. Being such a caring breeder, your sister will of course pay to have her b1tch hip-scored, eye tested & tested for sebaceous adenitis before breeding as the stud dog will also have been. Nothing worse than breaking a child’s heart by giving them a puppy which will suffer from an inherited disease.

]]> By: sianmog http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5784 sianmog Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:18:55 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5784 Ok I think your having abit of a hard time here! It is a lovelly idea and may very well work out! I hope someone will stud their dog for free but honestly that is very unlikely. The only thing I would say is that if the parents of these asthmatics wanted a dog in the house, surely they would have bought one anyway? If they havent bought one then perhaps they dont want one and may not appreciate your donation. If you have famillies keen and lined up who can provide a dog with a good home then go for it! But dont do it just because you think its a good idea! Ok I think your having abit of a hard time here! It is a lovelly idea and may very well work out!

I hope someone will stud their dog for free but honestly that is very unlikely.

The only thing I would say is that if the parents of these asthmatics wanted a dog in the house, surely they would have bought one anyway? If they havent bought one then perhaps they dont want one and may not appreciate your donation. If you have famillies keen and lined up who can provide a dog with a good home then go for it! But dont do it just because you think its a good idea!

]]> By: tdude09 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5783 tdude09 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:33:59 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5783 If your wanting to to give away free pups, and get the stud fee free. Call around.... look in the paper and see if there is anybody wanting to breed there male. Call tthem up and tell them what your doing on giving them away for fee"from the goodness of someone's heart" if they dont, they dont, its there problems. just keep checking if you really want to do it. If your wanting to to give away free pups, and get the stud fee free. Call around…. look in the paper and see if there is anybody wanting to breed there male. Call tthem up and tell them what your doing on giving them away for fee”from the goodness of someone’s heart” if they dont, they dont, its there problems. just keep checking if you really want to do it.

]]> By: Pink Denial http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5782 Pink Denial Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:41:03 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5782 Where can you find a standard poodle owner kind enough to let it mate for free with your dog? You won't, honestly. There are two types of poodle owners. The first paid quite a bit of money for their purebred poodle and, if they breed it, they are primarily concerned with improving the breed. You are not interested in doing this, so you are unlikely to find one of these owners who would go along with this. The second type has a poodle just as a pet. Either this pet is fixed, or the owner is probably already doing what you are trying to. There most definately is NOT a shortage of poodles, or poodle mixes, that hundreds of people are breeding just because they think they're hypo-allergenic. There ARE enough dogs for people who have asthma, and there ARE tons of poodle/poodle mixes who can't find homes. Economically speaking, there is a larger supply of these dogs than there is a demand. Check petfinder for "poodle" if you don't believe me. Where can you find a standard poodle owner kind enough to let it mate for free with your dog? You won’t, honestly.

There are two types of poodle owners. The first paid quite a bit of money for their purebred poodle and, if they breed it, they are primarily concerned with improving the breed. You are not interested in doing this, so you are unlikely to find one of these owners who would go along with this.

The second type has a poodle just as a pet. Either this pet is fixed, or the owner is probably already doing what you are trying to.

There most definately is NOT a shortage of poodles, or poodle mixes, that hundreds of people are breeding just because they think they’re hypo-allergenic. There ARE enough dogs for people who have asthma, and there ARE tons of poodle/poodle mixes who can’t find homes. Economically speaking, there is a larger supply of these dogs than there is a demand. Check petfinder for “poodle” if you don’t believe me.

]]> By: Tray http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5781 Tray Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:45:07 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5781 If you can't afford the Stud fee how are you going to be able to pay the vet bills if something terrible happens to the dam during whelp? for example how much does a cesarean cost at 3 in the morning?. What happens if a pup is stuck? what will you do if a pup is born with a cleft palate? Pups injections, they cost money!! If you can’t afford the Stud fee how are you going to be able to pay the vet bills if something terrible happens to the dam during whelp? for example how much does a cesarean cost at 3 in the morning?. What happens if a pup is stuck? what will you do if a pup is born with a cleft palate? Pups injections, they cost money!!

]]> By: Shadow's Melon http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5780 Shadow's Melon Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:18:14 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5780 Okay, just because someone has asthma, does NOT make them NEEDY financially that YOU have to give them a DOG. Also, tho this breed may be less of an issue for some people, some, with VERY SEVERE ALLERGIES will NOT be able to be around ANY DOG. You are making up an excuse to "justify" byb in your own mind because you KNOW IT'S WRONG! Okay, just because someone has asthma, does NOT make them NEEDY financially that YOU have to give them a DOG. Also, tho this breed may be less of an issue for some people, some, with VERY SEVERE ALLERGIES will NOT be able to be around ANY DOG.

You are making up an excuse to “justify” byb in your own mind because you KNOW IT’S WRONG!

]]> By: Miriam http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5779 Miriam Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:57:38 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5779 There is NO SHORTAGE of poodles, they are as common as dirt. In 2006 there were almost THIRTY THOUSAND new poodles registered in the US, and that doesn't count the thousands and thousands that are NOT registered. And free dogs usually end up at the pound or otherwise dead. Tell your sister to grab a brain. There is NO SHORTAGE of poodles, they are as common as dirt. In 2006 there were almost THIRTY THOUSAND new poodles registered in the US, and that doesn’t count the thousands and thousands that are NOT registered.

And free dogs usually end up at the pound or otherwise dead.

Tell your sister to grab a brain.

]]> By: mushroompumpkin http://bestamericandog.com/blog/where-can-i-find-a-standard-poodle-owner-kind-enough-to-allow-their-dog-to-mate-for-free/comment-page-1#comment-5778 mushroompumpkin Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:17:32 +0000 http://bestamericandog.com/blog/?p=1361#comment-5778 Dogs are not allegry free. To market a dog as a "hypoallergenic" dog is irresponsible and a big lie. As many people have said, there are far too many dogs being killed in this world and as good as your intentions might be, they will STILL be dying. You want to breed, you'll have to do it the right way and trust me, its going to be FAR from free. Health checks for hereditary diseases on both parents, breed standard (ALSO both parents), show quality, CLOSELY monitered vet care, money for an emergency, and making sure that the puppies are spayed and neutered when going to these new homes? Can you handle that? I highly doubt it if you are trying to find a dog to breed for free. You need to realize that ALL of these things are essential or all you will be is just another, unethical, back yard breeder. You really want to help? There are PLENTY of unwanted poodles in this world, none are going to be a guarenteed match for a kid with asthma because again, no dog is hypoallergenic but look in the shelters. Find a breed rescue. You are saving a life and doing good that way. Just this past week, we had two poodles in the pound. Purebred poodles. And there are so many more out there waiting for a home. Dogs are not allegry free. To market a dog as a “hypoallergenic” dog is irresponsible and a big lie. As many people have said, there are far too many dogs being killed in this world and as good as your intentions might be, they will STILL be dying. You want to breed, you’ll have to do it the right way and trust me, its going to be FAR from free. Health checks for hereditary diseases on both parents, breed standard (ALSO both parents), show quality, CLOSELY monitered vet care, money for an emergency, and making sure that the puppies are spayed and neutered when going to these new homes? Can you handle that? I highly doubt it if you are trying to find a dog to breed for free. You need to realize that ALL of these things are essential or all you will be is just another, unethical, back yard breeder.

You really want to help? There are PLENTY of unwanted poodles in this world, none are going to be a guarenteed match for a kid with asthma because again, no dog is hypoallergenic but look in the shelters. Find a breed rescue. You are saving a life and doing good that way. Just this past week, we had two poodles in the pound. Purebred poodles. And there are so many more out there waiting for a home.

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